Out of the Frame : Conversations about Photography

A podcast that features conversations about photography, creativity and the world we live in. Photographer Pia Johnson talks to other photographers, curators, academics and researchers about their work, their artistic process, and how they feel about contemporary photography today.

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Produced by Pia Johnson

Music by Steph O’Hara

Graphic Design by Brent Leideritz

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Recorded in Naarm at RMIT University Press Play Studios or on Djaara Country on Zoom.

Sound Engineer Alex Edward (Season 1 & Season 2 Ep 1-4)

SEASON 1 (2023)

Rebecca Nadjowski : About Landscape

Season 1 Episode 1

This episode is the first episode for Out of the Frame : Conversations about Photography and features guest photographer Rebecca Nadjowski talking to host Pia Johnson about her practice, the landscape and photography.

Rebecca (b. Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA) is an American/Australian artist whose work examines imaging technologies, the mediation of nature, and visualizations of the climate emergency.

More on Rebecca : rebeccanajdowski.com

@rebeccanajdowski

Torika Bolatagici : About Bodies

Season 1 Episode 2

This episode of Out of the Frame: Conversations about Photography features guest artist Torika Bolatagici talking to host Pia Johnson about her practice, bodies and photography.

Torika is a Fijian-Australian artist, writer and academic working across multiple disciplines including photography, video, installation, publication, and curation. Her work explores the social, cultural and political movement of bodies.

More on Torika : bolatagici.com

@torika_b

Shannon McGrath : About Interiors

Season 1 Episode 3

This episode of Out of the Frame: Conversations about Photography features guest artist Shannon McGrath talking to host Pia Johnson about her love of interiors, architecture and photography.

Shannon has been photographing architecture and interior design works for 25 years. Her images are known for their beautiful portrayal of light and form, with a soft realism that celebrates the subject matter.

More on Shannon : shannonmcgrath.com

@shannonmcgrath7

Tammy Law : About Stories

Season 1 Episode 4

This episode of Out of the Frame: Conversations about Photography features guest artist Tammy Law talking to host Pia Johnson about her practice as a documentary art photographer and telling stories.

Tammy is an Asian Australian photographer whose practice speaks to issues of migration and diaspora; revealing the complexities of displacement and the emotional, psychological and physical dislocations that occur.

More on Tammy : tammylaw.com

@tammy_laws

Morganna Magee : About Darkness

Season 1 Episode 5

This episode of Out of the Frame: Conversations about Photography features guest artist Morganna Magee talking to host Pia Johnson about her practice as a photographer and themes of grief, melancholy and the darkness.

Morganna is based in Melbourne, Australia, living and working on the unceded land of the Bunurong/Boonwurrung people. Her practice explores human relations to the more-than-human world using traditional photographic practices in non-traditional ways.

More on Morganna Magee: morgannamagee.com

@morgannamagee

Isadora Romero+ Jemima Wyman + Carmen Winant: About Photography as Activism

Season 2 Episode 1 - PHOTO2024 Special

This episode of Out of the Frame : Conversations about Photography is a special episode featuring three guest artists from PHOTO2024, Isadora Romero, Jemima Wyman and Carmen Winant talking to host Pia Johnson about each of the their practices and notions of photography as activism.

Isadora Romero is an Ecuadorian photographer and visual storyteller based in Quito. Her work is a frontier between documentary and art photography, focusing on social justice and environmental issues. Jemima Wyman’s practice encompasses performance, video, installation, collage, photography and painting. Her recent work focuses on protective coverings (patterns, masking and smoke) used by marginalized groups to gain power during conflict. Carmen Winant is an artist and the Roy Lichtenstein Chair of Studio Art at the Ohio State University. Her work utilizes installation and collage strategies to center modes of feminist exchange and social movement building, with particular emphasis on intergenerational and multiracial solidarity.

Follow them on @isadoraromerophoto, @jemimawyman and @carmen.winant & @photofestivalau

Jody Haines : About Portraiture

Season 2 Episode 2

This episode of Out of the Frame: Conversations about Photography features guest artist Jody Haines talking to host Pia Johnson about her practice as a lens-based artist, portraiture and yarning.

Jody Haines (palawa) is a contemporary artist based in Naarm/Melbourne. She is known for her unique art practice, which combines elements of social practice, photomedia, and public art. Her approach is deeply rooted in Indigenous feminist k/new/known materialism and emphasises yarning, relationality, and standpoint as a way to explore themes of identity, representation, and the female gaze.

More on Jody Haines : www.jodyhaines.com

@jodyhaines_photography

Clifford Prince King + Elyssia Wilson-Heti + Sunil Gupta with Charan Singh : About Queer Voices

Season 2 Episode 3 - PHOTO2024 Special

This episode of Out of the Frame: Conversations about Photography features 3 interviews with guest artists from the Photo2024 Festival: Clifford Prince King, Elyssia Wilson-Heti (FAFSWAG) and Sunil Gupta with Charan Singh, talking about queer voices in photography.

Self-taught US artist Clifford Prince King documents his intimate relationships in traditional, everyday settings that speak to his experiences as a queer Black man. Elyssia Wilson-Heti is an interdisciplinary artist, activist and member of FAFSWAG. She is of mixed Niuean and European heritage. Elyssia is producer for the FAFSWAG Arts Collective, having produced live performances, community events, arts panels and activations. Sunil Gupta is a British/Canadian citizen, (b. New Delhi 1953) MA (RCA) PhD (Westminster) who lives in London and has been involved with independent photography as a critical practice for many years focusing on race, migration and queer issues. Charan Singh’s (b. 1978, India) research and practice are informed by his involvement with HIV/AIDS work and community activism, that uses the mediums of photography, video and text to explore his 'pre-English language' life to creates artistic resistance through storytelling and fictional fragments to express multi-layered gender experiences and the ephemeral nature of queer desire.

Follow them on @cliffordprinceking, @elyssiaw, @fafswag, @sunilgupta7402, @random_access01

Sarah Anderson : About Problem Solving

Season 2 Episode 5

This episode of Out of the Frame : Conversations about Photography features guest photographer Sarah Anderson talking to host Pia Johnson about how she manages clients, works on collaborative projects and is a creative problem solver.

With a love of visual stories, Sarah’s experience spans across food & beverage, interiors and architecture. A practical problem solver, Sarah helps clients bring their work to life - always aiming to understand and capture the story beyond the shot.

More on Sarah Anderson www.sarahanderson.com.au @sarahanderson

Sarah Anderson fine art collaborations with Zoe Hodgens The Weekend Works https://www.theweekendworks.com.au/ 

Kate Robertson : About Connection

Season 2 Episode 6

This episode of Out of the Frame : Conversations about Photography features guest photographer Kate Robertson talking to host Pia Johnson about how she engages with community and landscape with authentic connection and mindfulness.

Through experimental analogue and digital photographic techniques, Kate explores unseen yet felt phenomena relating to healing and connectedness within environmental community contexts. She works with camera-less photographic methods and with photographic processes that can act as a receptacle for absorbing and understanding imparted information, rather than merely a mechanism for capturing a descriptive likeness.

More on Kate Robertson : www.kate-robertson.com

@katerobertsonphoto

Emma Phillips: About People

Season 2 Episode 7

This episode of Out of the Frame: Conversations about Photography features guest artist Emma Phillips talking to host Pia Johnson about her love of photographing people, being a feminist and advocating for the sexy-selfie.

Emma Phillips is a photographer and researcher/lecturer in Visual Communication with the University of Canberra. Her work uses photographic methodologies which foreground the representational experiences of women and non-binary people.

More on Emma www.emmaphillips.com.au

@emmatremora

Lesley Turnbull: About Tomboys and Lesbians

Season 2 Episode 8

This episode of Out of the Frame: Conversations about Photography features guest artist Lesley Turnbull talking to host Pia Johnson about her practice, notions of growing up a tomboy, being a lesbian and photographing the Scottish landscape.

Lesley is a Scottish Australian artist and teacher with a research-based art practice that investigates photo-based practices, performance, creative writing, and sculpture to explore how marginalisation shapes personal narratives and lived experiences.

More on Lesley: https://www.lesley-turnbull.com

@lesleyturn_bull

Isabella Capezio : About Queering Landscapes

Season 2 Episode 9

This episode of Out of the Frame: Conversations about Photography features guest artist Isabella Capezio talking to host Pia Johnson about their practice covering ideas about queering the landscape, bodies and making photographs in the darkroom.

Isabella Capezio is a photographer, artist and a lecturer in Photography in the School of Art at RMIT. Isabella’s research and artwork engages in themes of failure, queerness and landscape. Isabella is experimenting with alternative ways to reflect on place, vision, ‘nature’ and colonial frameworks of power through landscape photography.

@isabella_capezio